Yep. Ol' Rosebud wouldn't have gone out for a hamburger for any of them.
of course, I can't picture them putting up with Rosie's BS for a New York Minute. Four would have booted her out of the TARDIS for being so rude to Sarah Jane.
No. Jack or Martha might go with One or Two, but she wouldn't
I also don't think any of the other *companions* from their eras would have put up with Rose. Stephen, Ian and Barbara would have had her for lunch. Harry and Zoe would have made her feel dumb and therefore threatened. Jamie and Sarah Jane, being the true loves, would have been the center of attention and there'd be no place for her (then she'd get mean ala School Reunion and be booted anyway).
I can't picture Leela or Romana taking her crap either. Or Nyssa and Tegan for that matter.
I still say Nine was about to replace her with Lynda. I can't imagine Rosebud would have taken another young blonde on the TARDIS with good grace, and since Nine seemed smitten with Lynda, I have a feeling Rose would have been the one to go.
What really grates about the whole Rose/10 twu wuv 4eVAH11!! is that it was such a superficial relationship. 10 opened up more to Martha in Gridlock than he did to Rose in 2 years.
Tell me again just how it's an exemplary relationship when one party can't be honest about his past and the other flat out admitted in Doomsday that the main attraction on her part was that he whisked her away from her humdrum life?
I can't stand the Rosefen and their constant whining about how put-upon they are because of all the 'haters' ruining their fun. FCOL, every other fic on Teaspoon and FFNET are Rose/10, they've rewritten all the S3 eps to erase Martha's existence, and they even got a Rose/Handy 'happy ending'. (I figure Handy either died of brain-splode 5 minutes after 10 left or got picked up by some intelligence agency the next day, or jury-rigged a spaceship out of old parts and booked it off the planet, but I'm a cynic)
It *was* a very superficial relationship -- the entire second series was about the two of them running around, playing Mr. and Mrs. Doctor, getting their fingers into everything, messing with people's fates and ignoring the fact that it was not "forever."
The first few episodes of series 2 seem to foreshadow the fact that this whole trip of theirs is ephemeral (School Reunion, the Cybermen arc). They also imply that maybe, just maybe, not the most productive, positive trip anyway (The Christmas Invasion, Victoria's closing statement in "Tooth and Claw"). Of course Rose wants to ignore it -- she's 19, obsessed and doesn't want to go back to the shop. Of course Ten wants to ignore it -- he's an entitled, vindictive clinging-vine who hitches every misdeed to being "the last of the time lords," and therefore pitiable (and 'CUTE!' Let's not forget 'CUTE!'). They deserved to be torn apart at the end of the series. Good riddance.
HOWEVER, the *audience* did not deserve to hear "Rose..*sigh*" every episode for the next series and a half. It was beyond tedious. Hopefully we've got the last of her scraped off the bow now that Tennant's leaving.
The irony is, I actually like David Tennant as an actor quite a bit. I didn't at first, because I'd never seen him in anything else and I'd dismissed him as Johnny-one-note. But after Human Nature/Family of Blood (and don't get me started on the subject of why John Smith is 10,000 times a better man than 10), I realized that the problem was the writing, not the acting.
I don't think Steven Moffat is too fond of Rose and no matter how bad he may be, at least we won't have Wose hanging over the show like the first Mrs. DeWinter.
10 was quite the bastard, wasn't he? He deposed Harriet Smith out of pure peevishness. How dare a mere human act without his permission - and just why was he so sure that the Sycorax wouldn't simply return, or try the same stunt on another planet?
He allowed the Master to take over the earth and torture Martha's family and Jack for a year so he could get his boyfriend back. Don't tell me that the same person who effortlessly vanquished the Family two eps earlier couldn't have foiled the Master's plan earlier.
I really hate that the Doctor, an ancient, wise, compassionate alien was reduced to a neurotic, selfish, destructive a$$hole.
I don't think he is either, considering he was the one who gave us the brilliant "Girl in the Fireplace" (which has Ten all but ready to leave Rose in the dust for Madame du Pompadour).
I like David Tennant a lot. He was the first doctor I ever saw. His acting alongside Elisabeth Sladen has spared his character from being a total loss for me. That said, he's become my least favourite. Even Six, that favourite scapegoat of Who fans the world over, ranks higher in my book. Poor Colin Baker had to contend with bad writing, too, but his character was never wholly unlikable or malicious (huh, even when he was trying to strangle his companion, he's still more likable than Ten).
Let's hope Matt Smith and Steven Moffat can bring the character and the show to a more even plane.
In retrospect, Six comes across better than 10. Sure, he was a nasty jerk, basically Gordon Ramsey in a psychedelic coat, but I simply can't picture him bringing down a government because the Prime Minister made (a perfectly justified) decision he didn't agree with or allowing the Master to imprison and torture his 'friends' for a year, with nothing more than a vague plan to stop him.
Yeah, I really believe that ol' Rosie (the same bimbo who didn't want 10 to regenerate when he was badly injured and in terrible pain) would have looked past the wrinkles and gray hair and wuved 1, 2 or 3 just as much.
Yes, she was rude and snide and above all, ageist to Sarah Jane. You just know Rose was one of those salesgirls who stands there yakking on a cell phone, ignoring any female customer over 35. She also treated her mother and Mickey like crap. It seems that a lot of fen see her through (pardon the pun) rose-colored glasses.
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of course, I can't picture them putting up with Rosie's BS for a New York Minute. Four would have booted her out of the TARDIS for being so rude to Sarah Jane.
I also don't think any of the other *companions* from their eras would have put up with Rose. Stephen, Ian and Barbara would have had her for lunch. Harry and Zoe would have made her feel dumb and therefore threatened. Jamie and Sarah Jane, being the true loves, would have been the center of attention and there'd be no place for her (then she'd get mean ala School Reunion and be booted anyway).
I still say Nine was about to replace her with Lynda. I can't imagine Rosebud would have taken another young blonde on the TARDIS with good grace, and since Nine seemed smitten with Lynda, I have a feeling Rose would have been the one to go.
What really grates about the whole Rose/10 twu wuv 4eVAH11!! is that it was such a superficial relationship. 10 opened up more to Martha in Gridlock than he did to Rose in 2 years.
Tell me again just how it's an exemplary relationship when one party can't be honest about his past and the other flat out admitted in Doomsday that the main attraction on her part was that he whisked her away from her humdrum life?
I can't stand the Rosefen and their constant whining about how put-upon they are because of all the 'haters' ruining their fun. FCOL, every other fic on Teaspoon and FFNET are Rose/10, they've rewritten all the S3 eps to erase Martha's existence, and they even got a Rose/Handy 'happy ending'. (I figure Handy either died of brain-splode 5 minutes after 10 left or got picked up by some intelligence agency the next day, or jury-rigged a spaceship out of old parts and booked it off the planet, but I'm a cynic)
Sorry, don't mean to rant.
It *was* a very superficial relationship -- the entire second series was about the two of them running around, playing Mr. and Mrs. Doctor, getting their fingers into everything, messing with people's fates and ignoring the fact that it was not "forever."
The first few episodes of series 2 seem to foreshadow the fact that this whole trip of theirs is ephemeral (School Reunion, the Cybermen arc). They also imply that maybe, just maybe, not the most productive, positive trip anyway (The Christmas Invasion, Victoria's closing statement in "Tooth and Claw"). Of course Rose wants to ignore it -- she's 19, obsessed and doesn't want to go back to the shop. Of course Ten wants to ignore it -- he's an entitled, vindictive clinging-vine who hitches every misdeed to being "the last of the time lords," and therefore pitiable (and 'CUTE!' Let's not forget 'CUTE!'). They deserved to be torn apart at the end of the series. Good riddance.
HOWEVER, the *audience* did not deserve to hear "Rose..*sigh*" every episode for the next series and a half. It was beyond tedious. Hopefully we've got the last of her scraped off the bow now that Tennant's leaving.
I don't think Steven Moffat is too fond of Rose and no matter how bad he may be, at least we won't have Wose hanging over the show like the first Mrs. DeWinter.
10 was quite the bastard, wasn't he? He deposed Harriet Smith out of pure peevishness. How dare a mere human act without his permission - and just why was he so sure that the Sycorax wouldn't simply return, or try the same stunt on another planet?
He allowed the Master to take over the earth and torture Martha's family and Jack for a year so he could get his boyfriend back. Don't tell me that the same person who effortlessly vanquished the Family two eps earlier couldn't have foiled the Master's plan earlier.
I really hate that the Doctor, an ancient, wise, compassionate alien was reduced to a neurotic, selfish, destructive a$$hole.
I like David Tennant a lot. He was the first doctor I ever saw. His acting alongside Elisabeth Sladen has spared his character from being a total loss for me. That said, he's become my least favourite. Even Six, that favourite scapegoat of Who fans the world over, ranks higher in my book. Poor Colin Baker had to contend with bad writing, too, but his character was never wholly unlikable or malicious (huh, even when he was trying to strangle his companion, he's still more likable than Ten).
Let's hope Matt Smith and Steven Moffat can bring the character and the show to a more even plane.
Yeah, I really believe that ol' Rosie (the same bimbo who didn't want 10 to regenerate when he was badly injured and in terrible pain) would have looked past the wrinkles and gray hair and wuved 1, 2 or 3 just as much.
Yes, she was rude and snide and above all, ageist to Sarah Jane. You just know Rose was one of those salesgirls who stands there yakking on a cell phone, ignoring any female customer over 35. She also treated her mother and Mickey like crap. It seems that a lot of fen see her through (pardon the pun) rose-colored glasses.